Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:57:48 -0600 From: "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1008655068.fb5ac3@mired.org> To: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> Cc: "Technical Information" <tech_info@threespace.com>, "FreeBSD Chat" <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: EzBSD aint for me! Was: A breath of fresh air.. Message-ID: <15384.17244.476714.955574@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <003701c18398$07091d30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <20011211140107.A67653@FreeBSD.org> <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <01121010202100.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <20011211144049.A14693@acidpit.org> <20011211214943.A4489@tisys.org> <15382.29599.349155.309028@guru.mired.org> <20011211230257.A5157@tisys.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20011212181551.015734a8@threespace.com> <15384.11772.363959.693167@guru.mired.org> <003701c18398$07091d30$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> types: > Mike writes: > > Are you confusing "familiarity" with "relevant > > skills"? > No. You really should only answer questions about someone's intent when they are addressed to you. > > I have no idea what the "relevant skills" are > > for "web browsing" and "e-mail". > There aren't many. The point is that you only need the relevant skills to > do these things on Windows or a Mac, but you need many other skills in order > to do them on a UNIX system, unless you have a UNIX person to set everything > up (and maintain everything) for you. How anyone with any experience doing IT could claim that you don't need those skills for Windows is beyond me. To get email and browsing working on Windows, you need an expert to set everything up - and maintain everything - for you. It's just that there are enough Windows boxes around that it pays for your typical ISP to hire the expert(s). > > Um - could you tell me how to get a paned > > window manager running on any MS-Windows > > operating system? They're over 50% faster > > than framed window managers for typical wm > > applications. > Since most desktop machines today are at least ten times faster than they > need to be, this is a moot point. No, because the time I'm measuring isn't CPU time, but user time. Doing wm things with a paned window manager takes the user less time than doing the same things with a framed window manager. For example, the GOMS measure for changing the active window with my current window manager is 1.75 seconds, but it's 3.05 seconds for a Windows-style interface, dropping to 2.85 if you have a followmouse framed manager. Those all assume the processor is infintely fast; adding processor delays tilts the difference even more against framed managers. <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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