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Date:      Fri, 16 May 2003 18:08:22 -0400 (EDT)
From:      <john@utzweb.net>
To:        <jesse@wingnet.net>
Cc:        freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IEEE 1394  support
Message-ID:  <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net>
In-Reply-To: <ba3j7d$vmt$1@main.gmane.org>
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Hi All;

The existence of firwire support in FreeBSD is a really important and
fascinating bit of information of which i was heretofore unaware!

Is jessie's assertion correct here?

ie, if it sez 'firewire' on it, it 'Just Works'(tm), be it cardbus,
pcmcia, pci or isa?( dont think there are any isa firewire cards out there
- tho if there are pcmcia cards, then i suppose it could be possible)

furthermore, is firewire a sufficient abstraction that hooking up my scsi
jaz drive via a scsi/firewire adapter would also 'Just Work'? i just saw
on the web a scsi firwire adapter that is sbp2 compliant, is that
compatible with device sbp?

next question is a bit hard to ask tersely, but i'll try...
does firewire avoid the goofyness that usb, usb2.0 has where the plug is
the same, but the chips' bus interface is apparantly not the same? ie usb
is supported in FreeBSD and usb2 is not. is there older, slower, firewire
things and newer, faster, firewire things and they all work? (did that
make sense?)

tnx!

johnu

>
> "Tony Chang" <tychang1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com...
>> On Fri, 16 May 2003, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote:
>>
>> > 1.) Does FreeBSD support firewire?
>>
>> Yes.  You can support for it by adding 'device firewire' and
>> 'device sbp' to your kernel config file.  You'll need to add
>> some SCSI stuff too like 'device scbus' and 'device da'.
>>
>> > 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over
>> > firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver?
>>
>> Yes, that's what the sbp part is.  The CD-ROM on my docking
>> station connects via firewire without any problems.  I've also
>> attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without
>> any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds).  I was even able to
>> attach a mac formatted FireFly pocket hdd, I just couldn't read
>> any of the files because of the mac file system.
>
> Well that is certainly good news. I suppose this means that the
> firewire standard isn't chipset dependant like bluetooth and
> 802.11 then eh? I guess "firewire" includes the internal hardware
> interface also.
>
> I wish 802.11 and Bluetooth were like that. Oh well.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> --
>> Tony Chang
>> tychang1@uiuc.edu
>>
>> http://www.aypwip.org
>>
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>> any personal cost for the good of those who need them."
>> --Ender from Xenocide by Orson Scott Card
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