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Date:      Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:05 -0500 (EST)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        Fred Clift <fclift@verio.net>
Cc:        <alpha@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0
Message-ID:  <15810.64745.425793.33748@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20021101150820.X7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net>
References:  <20021101211647.GA11031@dragon.nuxi.com> <20021101150820.X7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net>

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Fred Clift writes:
 > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, David O'Brien wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > > It has become very hard to produce boot floppies for 5.0 on the Alpha
 > > platform.  The kernel has just grown too large.  The amount of effort
 > > required to get 'make release' to properly build the floppy images just
 > > requires too much effort.
 > 
 > Anyone care to provide more information on what exactly is required on the
 > floppy that makes it so big?  is it the _very_ wide range of
 > hardware/drivers needed to fit a good cross-section of the target
 > machines?  I'm just curious.


One cannot make an alpha kernel fit on a floppy alongside the loader
unless one removes nearly all drivers (including disk drivers), NFS,
IPV6, etc,etc.

 > 
 > > We do desire to offer a small boot image (say 8 MB) that one can 'dd'
 > > onto the beginning of a hard disk and boot from that to do an install.
 > 
 > So the two options off hand will be boot from CD or boot from temp hard
 > disk?
 > 
 > Are there other, (though perhaps painful) options?  I'm somewhat concerned
 > that I'm going to have to open up my box and put a hard disk in it just to
 > do an install...

Netbooting.

Drew

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