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Date:      Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:35:06 -0800
From:      Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org>
To:        "gurenchan" <gurenchan@gmail.com>
Cc:        "Roland Smith" <rsmith@xs4all.nl>, "Zane C. B-H." <v.velox@vvelox.net>,  <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: End of year Xorg status rant
Message-ID:  <15965d3f462.e563526350116.951917747823032795@nextbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <CALM2mEmmtx%2B%2BP6XCRgie_TGv6c7_zwtDJMX1cQ-guC=CLfdRcw@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20161231145143.18e6ac99@rsbsd.rsb> <20161231131150.GA3514@lonesome.com> <20161231160319.1a77a8fd@azsupport.com> <822e64b6a6efa38ad5331e2be3f175f9@vvelox.net> <20170103183149.GA86111@slackbox.erewhon.home> <CALM2mEmmtx%2B%2BP6XCRgie_TGv6c7_zwtDJMX1cQ-guC=CLfdRcw@mail.gmail.com>

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            Before commenting further you should really dig in to what is t=
here now. See sys/dev/drm2 in 11/12 and drivers/gpu/drm & sys/compat/linuxk=
pi in my drm-next branches.---- On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:02:57 -0800  blubee =
blubeeme<gurenchan@gmail.com> wrote ----I've never liked lines of code as a=
 measure of how good software is. I like challenges.  Best, Owen  On Wed, J=
an 4, 2017, 02:33 Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl> wrote:  > On Tue, Jan 03,=
 2017 at 12:14:54AM -0600, Zane C. B-H. wrote: > > On 2016-12-31 09:03, And=
rei wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 07:11:51 -0600 > > > Mark Linimon <lin=
imon@lonesome.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 02:51:55PM +=
0300, Beeblebrox via freebsd-x11 > > >> wrote: > > >> > I'm sure the Founda=
tion and developers have been debating whether to > > >> > drop desktop all=
 together > > >> > > >> I have never heard of any such discussion. > > Woul=
d the Foundation be willing to sponsor a developer to work on X? I'd be > w=
illing to donate toward that. > > > Honestly this entire thread has been fu=
ll of WTF. > > Second that. > > > I've been using FreeBSD for desktop purpo=
ses since like late 2001/early > > 2002. The only issue I've ever had is X =
-configure does a shit job of > > picking defaults at times, but that is no=
t a FreeBSD issue. > > I've been using FreeBSD amd64 on desktops and laptop=
s since 2004 (5.3). > > Mostly on Radeon GPU's. > > On the whole, I'd say X=
 works fine. > > > Yes, X tends to lag a bit behind Linux, > > Given limite=
d manpower, that is pretty much a given. Especially since Linux > graphics =
seem (IMO) to be in a permanent state of flux. > > > but all in all X is a =
much > > better experience on FreeBSD than Linux. One of the big thing that=
 > > really stands out between the two is screen tearing is rare on FreeBSD=
 > > compared to Linux. > > I cannot recall ever seeing screen tearing on F=
reeBSD. > > > X works well enough under FreeBSD that I honestly use it for =
gaming via > > wine. > > > > Personally I am proud and happy with what our =
X team has done with it, > > Ditto. > > > especially with Intel chipset sup=
port since like 10, making using it on > > a broader number of laptops all =
that more awesome. In 11 it is > > completely goat fragging wiz with the ne=
w KMS stuff. <3 > > The new KMS works fine with my Radeons. > > Roland > --=
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