Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:31:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer <julian@ref.tfs.com> To: gary@wcs.uq.oz.au (Gary Roberts) Cc: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Gating hackers into the newsgroups Message-ID: <199504250232.TAA03838@ref.tfs.com> In-Reply-To: <9504250101.AA15300@wcs.uq.edu.au> from "Gary Roberts" at Apr 25, 95 11:01:25 am
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> 1. I agree to act as a `registration point' for willing `lurkers'. If you
The one thing I've dicovered about usenet..
Quantity counts.. many people only read a percentage of all messages.
you need to post your request for assistants and your notice for newbies,
once a week at least.....
I've been thinking about this myself... If we can make this work
it'll be really quite a turing point in FreeBSD's history..
> All jokes aside, I just wanted to make it clear that the helpers list
> would be very much open to all and not limited to one newbie at a time.
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> 2. I would produce a suitable `announcement' of the service which would
> be posted say once a month (or whatever).
MORE MORE
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> 3. I would receive all requests from newbies and send them a standard
> acknowledgement, pointing out that their commitment would be to take
> on a newbie themselves at the end of their `hand-holding' period.
> If they agreed to the conditions, I would allocate them to a helper.
I think 'commitment' is too strong a word.. and allow them to
back out if they think they don't know enough.....
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> 4. At the end of the hand-holding period (how long do people feel this
> should be??) the newbie name would be transferred automatically to
> the bottom of the helper list and they would be automatically given
> the next newbie.
not automatically...
automatically send email asking that they volunteer.... :)
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> 5. Helpers can withdraw at any time *after* handling 1 newbie. This
> would be the basic minimum commitment of a helper/ex-newbie.
helpers should be allowed to sign up to the "helper needs trainer-wheels"
helper-helper list. :)
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> 6. I would try to do this `by hand' unless some scripting expert could
> come up with some automated scheme to handle it.
hmm sounds like an ideal script application to me....
The main thing I want to say is that you are going to have to make a
LOT OF NOISE on usenet..
people need to see this sort of thing 3 or four times before they
repond (or volunteer)
In conjunction with the gating question, I think this is a
step in teh right direction..
gating 'questions' to USENET is vitally important,
and I think gating hackers ONE WAY (i.e not saying where it came from)
is also important so people can see what advanced developers are working on..
(and they can tell their friends etc.)
this is Very Important!
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> Gary Roberts (gary@wcs.uq.edu.au) (Ph +617 844 0400 Fax +617 844 0444)
> 4th Floor, South Bank House, 234 Grey St, South Bank QLD 4101 Australia.
"don't you , just don't you worry yourself about THAT"
julian
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