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Date:      Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:30:40 -0600 (CST)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        taob@io.org (Brian Tao)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Microsoft "Get ISDN"?
Message-ID:  <199603181730.LAA25980@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960318112705.379X-100000@cabal.io.org> from "Brian Tao" at Mar 18, 96 11:58:21 am

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> On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Joe Greco wrote:
> 
> > > consumer.  I agree with you, an ISP who sticks a bunch of high-speed
> > > serial ports connected to a bunch of Bitsurfrs to provide ISDN access
> > > is just asking for trouble.
> > 
> > Why is that?  People keep telling me how the Portmasters can handle 115200
> > on all ports simultaneously...  what's the difference between this and
> > hooking up a bunch of 28.8's?
> 
>     Actually, I was referring specifically to the situation with ISDN.
> Instead of having a pile of serial controllers, a pile of Bitsurfrs, a
> pile of power bars, a pile of serial cables and a pile of phone
> cables, get yourself a Portmaster with BRI cards or if you're a larger
> operation, something like an Ascend MAX series and run BRI's and PRI's
> right into the box.  Looking at our machine room, the most problematic
> area is the nest of cabling and wires between the modems, the
> Portmasters and the bix blocks.  I'd love to be able to plug a single
> cable into a PRI port and be able to run 23 B channels from there.  No
> fuss no muss.

Okay, I'll agree that a stupid ISP could make a stupid mess...  however I
think I'd shoot for the rack mount version of the UTA-220's.  That's just a
matter of choosing wisely....  obviously it's always in your best interests
to come up with as clean a solution as possible.

The RM versions of the UTA-220 are cheaper too.

Basically I will probably never get past my distaste of any sort of
equipment where I have to take down multiple circuits to get my hands on a
single device.  That's one of the reasons I don't like in{t,f}ernal modems
and ISDN PRI gizmos, etc.

> > > However, for a workstation or PC at home,
> > > a serially-connected ISDN TA will work just fine.  Heck, I can even
> > > connect a 28.8k modem to the POTS jack on my Bitsurfr as a dialin port
> > > and keep my analog voice line free.
> > 
> > Yes, that is quite attractive :-)
> 
>     I forgot... I also have a regular analog phone connected to the
> modem, which serves as a second voice line.  :)  For the price, a
> Bitsurfr is flexible and ideal for casual home use.

Yes, that is quite attractive :-)

Been thinking about dumping my POTS service at home (yes, yes, I know the
dangers of being without power and only having an ISDN circuit..)..  :-)

First I actually have to get something beyond an XT laptop though.

... Joe

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