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Date:      Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:36:45 +1100 (EST)
From:      michael butler <imb@scgt.oz.au>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        scrappy@ki.net, stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Stable not very stable
Message-ID:  <199603260336.OAA02953@asstdc.scgt.oz.au>
In-Reply-To: <29658.827806897@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 25, 96 06:21:37 pm

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Jordan K. Hubbard writes:

> > 	Essentially, the system does a bunch of disk thrashing (I believe
> > its thrashing while it unbatches news, but am not 100% certain that that
> > is what it is doing), then it grinds to a complete halt.
 
> > 	I can change VT's, but that is about it.
 
> FWIW, that failure mode has been reported by others.  Any chance of
> swapping this motherboard for something other than a DX4, just to narrow
> this a little?  The failures seem to happen about 500% more often with the
> DX4 parts, though I'm not sure why.

Now that the EISA/VESA stuff is fixed in the ahc driver, I'm using -stable
on a write-through L1 cache (i.e. non-enhanced) AMD DX4/100 with an Adaptec
2842 and 64 meg of RAM with no trouble at all since I applied two (and only
two) patches ..

i) The cd9660_readdir() patch posted by Bruce Evans on March 8th and ..

ii) The ufs_vnops() patch (aka "free vnode isn't" patch) posted by David
Greenman on the same day.

I realise that at least one of these was designed to be against -current but
they also happen to apply cleanly to -stable.

With ~100k articles a day from the limited newsfeed I receive for the last
10 days, I think that counts as "working" :-) The motherboard is a Chinese
"no-name" flavour. The kernel's compiled with AHC_TAGENABLE and
QUEUE_FULL_SUPPORTED, NFS_ASYNC, NMBCLUSTERS=1024, CHILD_MAX=256, and
OPEN_MAX=256 and runs with the news spool, overview and active file-systems
mounted "async".

I suspect the problem is either cache/motherboard related or disk driver
related (since the complaint is against an NCR-based system). The CPU
itself, in the right motherboard, works great.

Occasionally, I've added Bruce's vfs_lookup/lstat patch (Nov 11th, '95) to
see if it makes disk access any faster .. it appears to do so, but I haven't
tested it quantitatively (not enough symlinks now that I have new drives),

	michael




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