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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:19:30 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco)
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, wollman@lcs.mit.edu, jhs@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, commercial@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Licensing Software
Message-ID:  <199609252019.NAA06603@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <199609252002.PAA08640@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Sep 25, 96 03:02:23 pm

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> > One of the biggest barriers to IPv6 transition?  I don't think so;
> > why would it be a barrier?
> 
> One of the biggest barriers to IPv6 is the people who are going to cling
> to their IPv4 IP addresses for reasons such as legacy license servers.
> 
> (I don't know if that is true or not, but I suspect it is more true than
> not)...  I think that was what he was sayin'.

Then IPv6 is already screwed, isn't it, and a general soloution to
the problem for all systems will solve it for FreeBSD at the same
time.

This is a non-problem.

> > Flexible renumbering in general?  Yes, I'll admit it's a barrier
> > to flexible renumbering.  Under what circumstances would you want
> > to allow a license host to "flexibly renumber"?  To hide the
> > licenses from Billy-Bob?  It makes no sense.
> 
> When the customer is assigned an address block out of an ISP's CIDR block
> and wants to change ISP's because the old ISP is out of business?

IPv6 solves this problem by making my address ranges independent of
my ISP/NSP: the address range is sufficiently enlarged, I can get a
range assignment of my own.

> There is a definite need to be able to flexibly renumber.

There's a need for a lot of things which somply aren't being addressed,
or less simply, are being purposely ignored.

> > 	de0: DC21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 Ethernet address 00:80:48:e8:1b:b1
> > ----------------------------------------------------*****************
> > 	de0: enabling 10baseT/UTP port
> 
> Of course, when you switch Ethernet cards, you are screwed.

So:

A)	Either: Don't switch ethernet cards
B)	Or: accept that as part of the overhead associated with
	switching ethernet cards, and make the decision, when
	you make it, after taking that fact into account

> Although I will tend to think that's a better solution than IP address :-)

Bleah.  Show me a functioning IPv6 network where the variant portion
of the address can't be ignored to achieve the same effect as using
IP addresses.

> The PC isn't suited to this.  It has no hardware to do it.  And even on
> machines where there is hardware to do it, node locked licenses suck.

And even where they don't, you can "spoof" the hardware by trapping
the user mode programs access to the kernel mode dongle driver, and
lying.  So even a hardware soloution -- isn't.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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