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Date:      Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:55:03 +0200 (EET)
From:      Heikki Suonsivu <hsu@clinet.fi>
To:        Heikki Suonsivu <hsu@clinet.fi>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@spinner.DIALix.COM>, FreeBSD-gnats@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kern/1698: sup from around 21:51 GMT 28th very unstable  (mmap, maybe?)
Message-ID:  <199611170855.KAA25317@katiska.clinet.fi>
In-Reply-To: <199610221604.TAA04027@katiska.clinet.fi>
References:  <199610220516.IAA00811@katiska.clinet.fi> <199610220643.OAA10951@spinner.DIALix.COM> <199610221604.TAA04027@katiska.clinet.fi>

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November 16 kernel is still unstable.  For last two kernels I got a
deadlock within 5 minutes of newsfeed starting up, so something might have
changed, from crash and filesystem corruption to deadlock.  August 19
kernel still runs with no serious problems.

Has anyone got a news server running reliably with kernels later than end
of August (preferably ones with tag RELENG_2_2) ?  It seems odd that I can
repeat this so easily, I would assume a lot of people should see this ?  I
have gotten metoos from (only?) three people now.  This problem has been
there for about 2 months now. 

The system is 3940, seagate Hawks for news disks, P120 ASUS TritonII, 96M.
Exports two NFS disks (not the news partitions).

Heikki Suonsivu writes:
 > Peter Wemm writes:
 >  > Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
 >  > > 
 >  > > Heikki Suonsivu writes:
 >  > >  > FreeBSD-gnats@freefall.freebsd.org writes:
 >  > >  >  > Thank you very much for your problem report.
 >  > >  >  > It has the internal identification `kern/1698'.
 >  > >  >  > The individual assigned to look at your
 >  > >  >  > bug is: freebsd-bugs. 
 >  > >  >  > 
 >  > >  >  > >Category:       kern
 >  > >  >  > >Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
 >  > >  >  > >Synopsis:       sup from around 21:51 GMT 28th very unstable (mmap, ma
 >  >     ybe?)
 >  > >  >  > >Arrival-Date:   Mon Sep 30 21:10:01 PDT 1996
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > Crashes without mmap also; apparently the problem has to be somewhere else
 >  >     .
 >  > > 
 >  > > sup from 20th october still bad, panic within 24 hours (news+nfs),
 >  > > filesystems get badly corrupted (lots of dup/bad inodes, zero-length director
 >  >     y,
 >  > > usually sequential inodes get killed).
 >  > 
 >  > Are you using a 4K blocksize on your news file system by any chance?  I've 
 >  > been having corruption problems like this for 12 months now, and changing 
 >  > to 8K blocks seems to have cured it..  (at least, the machine has been up 
 >  > for 7 days now, previous record was 3 and a half days).  The disk 
 >  > overheads are a killer though... :-(
 > 
 > We use 4K blocksize.  With the previous kernel from about a month a go we
 > have been getting uptimes of about a week, I do not know for sure how much
 > average would be as I have been about once a week tried to upgrade to a
 > newer current.  I haven't seen a single corruption problem with that
 > kernel, though some panics, so something bad happened about month ago.
 > 
 > We mount some thing from the news server with NFS, so it might be related
 > to other people reporting NFS being flakey for last couple of weeks.  The
 > filesystem corruption is nasty, as it requires manual care to get things up
 > and going...
 > 
 >  > >  > Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi
 >  > >  > mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-0-43542270 fax -4555276 home -8031121
 >  > 
 >  > Cheers,
 >  > -Peter
 > 
 > -- 
 > Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi
 > mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-0-43542270 fax -4555276

-- 
Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi
mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-9-43542270 fax -4555276



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