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Date:      Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:42:35 -0500 (EST)
From:      "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        opsys@mail.webspan.net, mike@smith.net.au, rezidew@rezidew.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: WTB: Pentium Pro 180
Message-ID:  <199711060642.BAA09051@dyson.iquest.net>
In-Reply-To: <5417.878796140@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Nov 5, 97 10:02:20 pm"

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Jordan K. Hubbard said:
> > Actually I've reconsidered, I was going to use a Tyan tahoe-2 MB and get a
> > single Pro and upgrade to another later.
> > But seeing as how almost everyone is dropping pro's like a bad habbit im
> 
> I don't know which "everyone" you're talking about here, but everyone
> I know still favors the P6/200, with its faster cache and ability to
> cache above 512MB, for any server of truly serious capacity.  I can
> only infer from this that you've been hanging out with the
> light-weights again. :-)
> 
(JKH -- I know that you already know what I am declaring below -- but this
 info/opinion is meant for the more general audience.)

I tend to agree -- but with the price of a P6/180 processor being about
$250 or so, it is hard to spring for the extra $250.  In fact, one can
supposedly almost get 2 P6/180 processors for the price of one P6/200.  Also,
high end P5 processors cost MORE than a P6/180!!!  The only reason that I would
ever consider a new P5 would be to play with MMX.  Since P5 is near
the end of it's lifetime, P6 is near it's lifetime, and apparently, the
P-II is going to have a short lifetime  -- I suggest that almost any processor
today is throw-away.

(P6 and P-II are much nicer/faster than the P5(even MMX); Even though the P6
 is probably deadest, it is still a solid performer under load.)  It has
 all of the interesting features except for MMX.

My suggestion is to get a solid Natoma motherboard, and a P6/180.  The major
argument against this is that it appears that 60nsec SIMMS are likely going to
be out of vogue.  Any ram that you buy other than SDRAM DIMMS are probably
already obsolete.  Of course, ram is very cheap now also.

-- 
John
dyson@freebsd.org
jdyson@nc.com



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