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Date:      Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:29:58 +0100
From:      lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.at (marino.ladavac@siemens.at)
To:        dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk, shimon@simon-shapiro.org
Cc:        wilko@yedi.iaf.nl, julian@whistle.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
Message-ID:  <199803060729.IAA29905@ws6423.gud.siemens.at>

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> From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar  5 21:12:11 MET 1998
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> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:15:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
> To: Duncan Barclay <dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
> Cc: Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>, julian@whistle.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
> X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG
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> 
> On 05-Mar-98 Duncan Barclay wrote:
>  ...
> 
> > Are you sure you guys want to use different phases of a the same feed?
> > Remember
> > all two or three phases come into the building from the same sub-station
> > down
> > the same pice of cable. Most comman fault is a digger cutting this
> > cable taking out all three phases or temp. shorts in the
> > overheads to the sub-station (auto reset ater a couple of minutes;
> > usually
> > from wind blowing the cables together).
> > 
> > You need feeds from seperate sub-stations.
> 
> And then snow levels the cables from the power plant, or a flood destroys
> the dam...  I recommend 2 separate UPSs for the two inputs.  True HA should
> be on 48VDC, separate packs, separate feeds.  Standard Telco stuff.

And then you find yourself in the middle of a nuclear blast...

Honestly, don't you think you're overdoing it a bit here.  I mean, we're
still talking ISP, right?  If the power goes, your modems are dead as well.
And if you want to UPS that, you're using motor-generator pairs with Diesel
backup and don't really care about batteries (a 30 year old Diesel still 
kicks in within a second and if your power supply cannot stand a few second
intermittent failure then you have some seriously underdimensioned power
supplies).

/Marino
> 
> ----------
> 
> 
> Sincerely Yours, 
> 
> Simon Shapiro
> Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG                      Voice:   503.799.2313
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