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Date:      Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:45:02 -0500
From:      Dan Nelson <dnelson@emsphone.com>
To:        ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the  Interne
Message-ID:  <19980409224502.A15297@emsphone.com>
In-Reply-To: <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net>; from "ken@mui.net" on Thu Apr  9 12:29:20 GMT 1998
References:  <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net>

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In the last episode (Apr 09), ken@mui.net said:
> 
> Once I got it, a few things I noticed.  Linux support is awesome in 
> many ways.  If you have a question, simply go to the irc.  There's 
> tons of people always there, always helpful.
> 
> That's one major difference.  There's very little presence on the 
> FreeBSD side (on the irc).

/me checks his IRC logs..  No-one from *.mui.net has joined #FreeBSD in
the last year..  I'm in #FreeBSD on efnet most days, and it's been
averaging around 60 people, up from ~40 last year.  A few of them are
usually willing to answer questions, although we sometimes get tired of
PPP questions..  I go for odd compiler or hardware problems, myself.
 
> Newsgroup support via linux is also pretty good.  FreeBSD doesn't 
> seem to have much there.

comp.unix.freebsd.* gets a couple hundred posts a day.  Visible enough
for me.
 
> 6- Linux is starting to be written in lots of books.  There's no link 
> to FreeBSD.  No logical step for someone.  If they have DOS, then 
> it's logical to get win31.  if win31, then win95.  If linux, then 
> redhat.  perhaps if redhat, then FreeBSD <grin>.  Greg Lehey's book 
> is a good start.  It references FreeBSD specifically.  There needs to 
> be more to get popular.  O'Reilly would be a good place to try to 
> drum up support, perhaps.

The reason for this is that FreeBSD wasn't created from scratch like
Linux.  Any book on 4.4BSD applies almost directly to FreeBSD, and
there are a lot of papers on different parts of BSD Unix.  They just
don't have 'FreeBSD' written on them.

	-Dan Nelson
	"Genesys" on #FreeBSD
	dnelson@emsphone.com

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