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Date:      Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:22:59 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu (David E. Cross)
Cc:        jlemon@americantv.com, perlsta@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Protected mode instructions which reduce to noop.
Message-ID:  <199804240622.XAA07872@usr09.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980423122909.12562B-100000@phoenix.its.rpi.edu> from "David E. Cross" at Apr 23, 98 12:32:48 pm

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> > What VM type architecture were you referring to?
> 
> I am referring to IBM's VM operating system.  and here is the original
> message from -hackers from nov-1997:

Look into "Protected mode software architecture" from MindShare.

The general problem is not that Intel does not allow this, but that
implementing a VMM (Virtual Machine Manager) is not trivial.  One
big piece of windows 95 is the VMM.

The other big problem is that the emulated machines lack simultanaeity;
this is mostly because some of the instructions are very, very hard to
emulate.

If you look at the BOCHS code, you will see that it's perfectly
possible to implement a VM on Intel.  BOCHS doesn't use the native
instructions that it can, and it doesn't use a kernel assist in the
person of the "VM" bit in control register 4 on 486 and above chips.
This makes BOCHS slower than it absolutely has to be, but it also makes
it run on non-Intel machines.

It would probably be worth implementing a full-on VMM (in the MindShare
documented sense), if only to allow running of MS Os's in a window on
FreeBSD.


The IBM VM architecture is logically complete -- that is, nearly all
of the instruction emulation implementation is in hardware, so a VMM
is (relatively) *much* lighter weight.  I had the opportunity to use
VM/CMS and VM/UTS (I was writing an IBM3101 block mode terminal emulator
for UNIX) back in the mid 80's, and I was impressed that their performance
nearly equalled unemulated hardware.  IBM is technically competent in
most regards (brilliant in some, which is surprising; management tends to
fear brilliant things).


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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