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Date:      Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:09:47 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com>
Cc:        eischen@vigrid.com, nate@mt.sri.com, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it
Subject:   Re: TCP bug
Message-ID:  <199812021709.KAA06313@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <199812021647.LAA09094@lakes.dignus.com>
References:  <199812021636.JAA06068@mt.sri.com> <199812021647.LAA09094@lakes.dignus.com>

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> > > That's pretty strange.  So the router can't make TCP connections to
> > > these sites either?
> > 
> > No, the router can, but any machines hung off it's ethernet can't.  On a
> > whim (based on a hint I got from Karl Peilorz) I changed the MTU on the
> > router (which is running SLIP to get to the net) from 552 to 1500, and
> > now things work.
> > 
> > The strange things is that that the mtu of the SLIP interface if/was 552
> > and all traffic that originated on that box was fine, and the mtu on the
> > ethernet interface was 1500, and traffic generated from there did not
> > work.
> > 
> > I would have thought that you wouldn't need to fragment any packets that
> > had a mtu of 552 to stick it on an ethernet with an mtu of 1500.
> > 
...
> 
>  Just to add to this; I've got exactly the same symptoms; which I previously
> reported.
> 
>  On my internal network; I can't get to some sites (www.aol.com being
> the best example.)
> 
>  But, If I'm on the gateway machine - it has no problems getting there.
> 
>  Thus, I was implicating natd.

But, I don't use natd in my network.  All of my boxes have real
registered IP address.

>  I'm betting there's something going on with natd and packet fragmentation.

I'll bet something else is going on.

>  Several people unsuccessfully tried to duplicate my problem; but I'm 
> wondering now if they were using PPP or something else that had a higher 
> MTU, and, thus, didn't fragment any packets.

I suspect it may have something to do with PPP's mtu vs. SLIP's mtu.


Nate

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