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Date:      Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:57:30 +0100
From:      Guido van Rooij <guido@gvr.org>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com>
Cc:        dillon@apollo.backplane.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it
Subject:   Re: TCP bug
Message-ID:  <19981202215730.B23018@gvr.org>
In-Reply-To: <199812021636.JAA06068@mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Wed, Dec 02, 1998 at 09:36:05AM -0700
References:  <199812021626.LAA27156@pcnet1.pcnet.com> <199812021636.JAA06068@mt.sri.com>

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On Wed, Dec 02, 1998 at 09:36:05AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> No, the router can, but any machines hung off it's ethernet can't.  On a
> whim (based on a hint I got from Karl Peilorz) I changed the MTU on the
> router (which is running SLIP to get to the net) from 552 to 1500, and
> now things work.
> 
> The strange things is that that the mtu of the SLIP interface if/was 552
> and all traffic that originated on that box was fine, and the mtu on the
> ethernet interface was 1500, and traffic generated from there did not
> work.
> 
> I would have thought that you wouldn't need to fragment any packets that
> had a mtu of 552 to stick it on an ethernet with an mtu of 1500.
> 
> I need to lookmore into this...

In my previous mail I already stated why things can go wrong if the
www server on the internet has a badly configured packet filter.
In your case it seems that your router is badly configured. Does it
filter out ICMP ICMP_UNREACH_NEEDFRAG pakcets from the ethernet to
the ouside, but not from your router to the outside?

-Guido

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