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Date:      Fri, 1 Jan 1999 07:25:30 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        dillon@apollo.backplane.com, scrappy@hub.org
Cc:        grog@lemis.com, donegan@quick.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sendmail throughput (was: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required.)
Message-ID:  <199901011525.HAA22294@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812312308520.9916-100000@thelab.hub.org> (message from The Hermit Hacker on Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:09:59 -0400 (AST))
References:   <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812312308520.9916-100000@thelab.hub.org>

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> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:09:59 -0400 (AST)
> From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
> cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, grog@lemis.com, donegan@quick.net,
>         current@FreeBSD.ORG
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> 
> On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> 
> > :
> > :      current has 1411 subscribers.  each wonts to get the message
> > :      first!  if we do 100 messages a day that's only 141,100
> > 
> >     What, only 1411?

  yes, freebsd-current is only 1411 subscribers.   you deleted the
  part about delivery rate.  delivery rate is very important.  imagine
  receiving mail 30 minutes or 3 hours later than everyone else on the
  list.   make participation difficult and fustrating.

> > 
> >     The sendmail limitation you are discussing is a basic queueing / DNS
> >     resolver limitation that is relatively easy to solve.  Postfix is 
> >     almost certainly faster, but it makes no sense to put postfix
> >     in our base distribution just because you have a 1400 user mailing
> >     list and your list software doesn't break them up a little before
> >     starting up sendmail!
> 
> have to agree there...I run one list that is 9k+ subscribers, through
> sendmail, and use jbl(?) to break them up into smaller, more manageable
> and faster to process chunks...

  i have used bulk_mailer by kieth moore of the univ of tenn. to break
  the lists up into small bite size chunks for sendmail....does not do
  as well as postfix.

  could you provide an example please.  /etc/aliases lines, how
  long to make one delivery attempt to every address, other info?
  something solid.

jmb

  

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