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Date:      Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:50:35 -0400
From:      Nathan Dorfman <nathan@rtfm.net>
To:        John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
Cc:        dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FTP passive mode - a new default?
Message-ID:  <19990601185035.A11288@rtfm.net>
In-Reply-To: <199905280446.VAA06342@vashon.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 09:46:51PM -0700
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.03.9905271100280.16577-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> <199905280446.VAA06342@vashon.polstra.com>

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On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 09:46:51PM -0700, John Polstra wrote:
> In article <Pine.BSF.4.03.9905271100280.16577-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>,
> Doug White  <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu> wrote:
> 
> > I second the suggestion to 'autoprobe' PASV support, and revert to active
> > mode (w/ an appropriate msg) if PASV is refused.
> 
> That won't be a good solution in practice.  When passive mode doesn't
> work, it's almost always because a firewall on the server side is
> blocking the incoming data connection.  The client doesn't see a
> refusal; its connect() call just times out.  The trouble is, the
> timeout takes a long time (on the order of a minute or more).

Certain shareware lose95 FTP servers don't know how to do passive mode.
The NetBSD ftp client uses passive mode by default, but will send a
PORT if the PASV is unsuccessful.

> John
> -- 
>   John Polstra                                               jdp@polstra.com
>   John D. Polstra & Co., Inc.                        Seattle, Washington USA
>   "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief."           -- James V. DeLong

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