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Date:      Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:01:44 -0500
From:      Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        Dominic Mitchell <Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk>, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: yet more ways to attack executing binaries (was Re: deny ktrace without read permissions? )
Message-ID:  <19990726120144.E85663@holly.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <199907261652.KAA19121@mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 10:52:34AM -0600
References:  <19990726054037.D79022@holly.dyndns.org> <199907261116.EAA43920@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990726132132.B78403@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> <199907261652.KAA19121@mt.sri.com>

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On Mon, Jul 26, 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH, LD_PRELOAD and LD_DEBUG are ignored for setuid executables
> > > in FreeBSD.
> > 
> > But the point being made is that they are not ignored for executables
> > which have no read access.  And from there, read access can be gained,
> > because at that point, you have code running in the process's address
> > space.
> 
> That's right.  In other words, there really is no way of protecting
> executable files from being read if someone is motivated enough.
> 
> And, in an open-source OS like FreeBSD, it's not a viable solution in
> any case....

   The only option, as I've mentined previously in this thread,
that I can think of, would be to have an option when building
various linker code to disable searching in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH if
the library being looked for is in the standard library paths.

-- 
|Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com>
|Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking?
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