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Date:      Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        imp@village.org (Warner Losh)
Cc:        bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans), dynamo@ime.net, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Not sure if you got it...
Message-ID:  <199908301909.MAA66317@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <199908301807.MAA04962@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Aug 30, 1999 12:07:23 pm"

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> In message <199908301801.LAA66101@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> "Rodney W. Grimes" writes:
> : > In message <199908300307.NAA06836@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Bruce Evans writes:
> : > : >Is there a better way to turn off all the user flags then?
> : > : 
> : > : Turning them all off works of course:
> : > : 
> : > :     chflags dump,noopaque,nouappnd,nochg,nouunlnk
> : > : 
> : > : Is this better :-)?  It's not future-proof.  I'd prefer `chflags nouflags'.
> : > 
> : > Any objections to chflags nouflags going into the tree, modulo
> : > problems with the actual code that does it?
> : 
> : I don't have a problem with that.
> : 
> : > 
> : > I'd also like to have a new flag to rm.  -F.  One -F will be
> : > 	chflags nouflags foo ; rm -f foo
> : > while two -F will be
> : > 	chflags 0 foo ; rm -f foo
> : 
> : I have a problem with this, it means updating 1 more chunk of code
> : should the set of items in uflags change.  
> 
> I was going to define something like UF_USERFLAGS and SF_SYSFLAGS as
> well...

It still goes aginst my ingrained Unix ideal that says each command
should do one thing and one thing only, but do it really well.  If you
need to do 2 things you should glue 2 commands togeather.  Have we all
fallen off the rocker and forgotten this is one of the design concepts
behind unix, and one of the things that has made it such a powerful
operating system that has withstood the test of time over and over?

I was sick when they added -R to cp (why did they do that anyway?),
yes I got even sicker that once we did that we had to add -v, yes, I am
an old fart who is set in his ways ... :-)

-- 
Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25)                    rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net


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