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Date:      Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:20:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert)
Cc:        jack@germanium.xtalwind.net (jack), gjp@in-addr.com, n@nectar.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Filtering port 25 (was Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk
Message-ID:  <199909290120.SAA17878@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <199909282348.QAA14375@usr07.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Sep 28, 1999 11:48:07 pm"

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> > Today Gary Palmer wrote:
> > > It doesn't, but direct-inject and relay-rape spam is a major problem.
> > > How do you propose that large ISPs combat abuse of their dialups to
> > > create this problem?  Forcing the spam to go through their own SMTP
> > > servers, where it can be logged, tracked, rate limited and noticed
> > > much earlier is a BIG step in the right direction.  UU Net is doing
> > > this for all of their resold dialups because of the major problems
> > > they had.
> > 
> > This is the second time I've heard that UUnet is blocking port 25
> > from their dialups.  The number of connections from *.da.uu.net
> > that I continue to reject make me think it is an urban legand. :(
> 
> The theory is that that have "opted" to list their dialup lines with
> the DUL's DNS server, which can tell if an IP address is assigned to
> a dynamic IP address pool.
> 
> The fact is that the majority of dialup address blocks listed in the
> DUL are involuntary placement there by third parties.

WRONG!!!  Please read the web pages again...

> If they (or another dialup IP POP provider) _had_ intentionally
> opted in (I kind of doubt that EarthLink, for example, intentially
> severed the ability of their customers to send email to AOL on a
> voluntary basis, what without a relay infrastructure in place at
> the time), then they are "filtering port 25 at destinations which
> have opted to check the DUL before accepting the SMTP connection".

Earthlink opted-in to reduce the mail load on abuse@earthlink, simple
economics.

-- 
Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25)                    rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net


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