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Date:      Wed, 08 Dec 1999 12:52:37 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>
Cc:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! 
Message-ID:  <199912082052.MAA00517@mass.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:08:07 EST." <19991208150807.A16687@netmonger.net> 

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> On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 10:56:24AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> > > You shouldn't remove a function until it has been properly replaced.
> > > A very simple concept some people seem to have trouble grasping.
> > 
> > Actually, that's not at all correct.  We've demonstrated a number of 
> > times now that you reach a point where a brutal cutover is required.  
> > Failure to do so leaves people clutching the old security blanket for 
> > years, and massively impedes further development.
> 
> Unfortunately, FreeBSD has far too many examples of a working system
> being replaced with a less functional system.  Just off the top of my
> head, there were the SCSI drivers lost to CAM, the PCCARD system,
> sound drivers, and now ATA.

Actually, most of this is histrionics.  CAM didn't lose us SCSI drivers; 
we actually _gained_ from it.  We haven't "lost" the pccard system at 
all, and the new sound code is on a feature-par with both of the old ones.

What we need here is a commitment to these new initiatives, not a lot of 
fence-sitting and clutching our knitting to our chests.  All of these 
initiatives were started to deal with massive problems in the subsystems 
they replace; clinging to the old code rather than getting on-board and 
helping with the new code directly impedes the resolution of these 
problems.

Again, I say, think of what we're trying to achieve here.

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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