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Date:      Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:26:25 -0800
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        Roger Hardiman <roger@cs.strath.ac.uk>
Cc:        Jaeckel Joachim <Joachim.Jaeckel@mgi.de>, "'freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: something like video4linux the 2. (some thoughts...) 
Message-ID:  <200001180926.BAA20178@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:41:40 GMT." <38842744.2747018@cs.strath.ac.uk> 

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Hi Roger,

Let me try to make it even clearer we need a major push on the
application side. We can spend  man years doing cool low
level driver stuff however the fact remains who is going
to write the apps. I understand there will be rare occasions for
linux commercial video offerings but for now they will be
just few .

It is a simple matter of management and strategy : 
Where should we spend our precious man-efforts.

a.  Doing low level driver stuff?
b.  Writing cool multimedia apps?


We can have the multimedia applications dictate how and where
should we spend our kernel man-efforts or we can sort of keep doing
what we  have been doing since the start of the multimedia group:

Code up the low level kernel interfaces and drivers then pray
that the applications people will come along and do the coding.

My intuition and experience tells me that is time for a change...

	Best Regards

> Amancio,
> 
> > What you want is more  video capture device drivers for different video
> > capture boards using the bt848 ioctl interface which is sufficiently general
> > to accomodate most video capture programs.
>  
> I agree that the API the Bt848/878 driver has is nice and has served
> us well over the years.
> 
> One cannot ignore the growing number of V4L apps, including commercial
> ones like the RealMedia Video Server. Even SANE is adding
> a V4L interface to grab frames from a camera and V4L is being used by
> OpenH323 (the opensource NetMeeting clone)
> 
> Of course, we can write stubs for SANE and OpenH323 for our API.
> But as commercial companies write for V4L, it would be handy for us to
> support it too.
> 
> 
> We just need that magical expert who can learn V4L and can add it
> to the driver.
> 
> 
> Roger
> --
> Roger Hardiman
> Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Research Group, Glasgow, Scotland.
> http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk      0141 548 2897
> roger@cs.strath.ac.uk
> 
> 

-- 
 Amancio Hasty
 hasty@rah.star-gate.com




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