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Date:      Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:31:54 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: programmer's editor choice
Message-ID:  <20000127083154.X44457@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001261407510.31377-100000@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
References:  <20000122150828.D390@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001261407510.31377-100000@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>

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On Wednesday, 26 January 2000 at 14:11:24 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 23:39:12 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>>> Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
>>> powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning
>>> vi, and i like it so far.  But there are new editors and new
>>> versions of vi that seem to have a lot to offer.  I've narrowed it
>>> down to vi, an enhanced version of vi (vile or vim?) uemacs, or joe.
>>
>>> I really like the efficiency of vi so far, but i have a long ways to
>>> go before i am proficient.
>>
>> It's a steep curve.
>
> Well, i installed emacs 19 and then 20 (didn't see much of a difference, IIRC,
> but the problem i had was there seems to be no rhyme or reason to the
> key bindings.  The keys for moving the cursor make some sense,
> but when it comes to extra commands, well, it just doesn't seem intuitive.
> Maybe i'll get the hang of it in time.

They're not intuitive.  Neither are vi commands.  The fact is that it
doesn't matter too much; you learn them just as quickly.

Greg 
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