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Date:      Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:06:00 -0500
From:      Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Ted Sikora <tsikora@home.com>, "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Is FreeBSD dead ?
Message-ID:  <20000311160600.H25438@jade.chc-chimes.com>
In-Reply-To: <3272.952797590@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 09:59:50AM -0800
References:  <38CA7790.8B31B082@home.com> <3272.952797590@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 09:59:50AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > I am sure of the FreeBSD Projects intentions but like the previous post
> > things can 'turn ugly fast with the greatest intentions' The fact a
> > for-profit company controlling it's movements is cause for concern.
> 
> How many different ways can we say this?  THE COMPANY DOES NOT CONTROL
> THE FREEBSD PROJECT'S MOVEMENTS.  It can't!

A little perspective for the naysayers:

I do not work for Walnut Creek. I am a FreeBSD committer, I could call
Bob Bruce, Pat Reitz, or BSDI high level people and tell them off and curse
and swear or talk about their mothers.

I would still be a FreeBSD committer. BSDI/WC can't take that away. (I'd
imagine Jordan would be pissed, but I'm trying to prove a point, work with
me..). WC/BSDI could take away the bandwidth. WC/BSDI could take away the
hosting of servers, there are a ton of people with servers and bandwidth
that would take over exactly what hub/freefall/bento/etc do right now. The
USWest machines are living proof of that.

I'd even venture to say that Jordan (and core) already have contingent plans 
for such a "disaster". 

Is it true that FreeBSD has benefited because of Walnut Creek's financial
backing, yes. Is it also true that so many people are involved with FreeBSD
who work for companies MUCH larger then WC that similar arrangements coudld
be made quickly, yes. Is it true that when all 185+ committers and the
thousands of submitters/developers saw that something bad happened that
they would just keep on truckin' with the relocated FreeBSD machines, yes.

FreeBSD is the community, not the physical machines that host it.

-- 
Bill Fumerola - Network Architect
Computer Horizons Corp - CVM
e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272




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