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Date:      Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:13:04 -0500
From:      Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com>
To:        Mikhail Teterin <mi@aldan.algebra.com>
Cc:        Ade Lovett <ade@lovett.com>, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ports/12739: New port: AT&T's DjVu Netscape plug-in
Message-ID:  <20000328191304.D9136@argon.blackdawn.com>
In-Reply-To: <200003282350.SAA04257@xxx.video-collage.com>; from mi@video-collage.com on Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 06:50:05PM -0500
References:  <20000328173006.N69223@lovett.com> <200003282350.SAA04257@xxx.video-collage.com>

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On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 06:50:05PM -0500, mi@video-collage.com wrote:
> = My (possibly incorrect) understanding is that support for both 2.x and
> = aout 3.x has ceased.
> 
> If it takes so little, why not leave it there?

Ade is correct, we are dropping support for a.out, period. This was
discussed early last year, and it was determined that a year from then, we
would drop a.out support. It has now been almost 16 months and counting. We
are only now dropping support for a.out.

When you consider ~1,500-2,500 ports with a.out support checking, you
quickly realize it doesn't take "so little".

By the time we finish gleaning a.out from most of our ports, the only real
remaining bits will be XFree86-aoutlibs, netscape, and maybe a few others.

Note: I may be wrong on some of these points, but this is still my stand.

> Yes, but we don't have to go out of our way to enforce that -- again, we
> are not  a party  the agreement  -- it is  between user  and AT&T.  As a
> courtesy  to the  latter,  we  tell the  user  about  it, but,  strictly
> speaking, I don't think we are required to do that.

I'm afraid that unless you're a lawyer, it simply makes better sense to
avoid any possible lawsuit with AT&T. So I think that this license needs to
be shown to the user and they need to accept it. The only valid argument
you've placed against this, which is that it requires IS_INTERACTIVE,
weighs less than the potential lawsuits.

I'm not trying to put you down here, I simply think that we should do
everything we can to avoid possible lawsuits, to the point of lunacy. This
is a free (as in "freedom") project and I would hate to see that change.

-- 
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