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Date:      Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:55:08 -0400
From:      Peter Radcliffe <pir@pir.net>
To:        stable <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 4.1 date?
Message-ID:  <20000413135508.C26008@pir.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000413102553.B6605@luna.cdrom.com>; from jim@luna.cdrom.com on Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 10:25:53AM -0700
References:  <20000412183413.A69623@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20000413101202.A6605@luna.cdrom.com> <20000413181640.B99705@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20000413102553.B6605@luna.cdrom.com>

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Jim Mock <jim@luna.cdrom.com> probably said:
> If people are waiting for 4.1, they shouldn't be; there's no reason for
> them not to be using 4.0.

Other than the fact there are things broken in it that worked fine in
3.4 which prohibit it's use for most of my machines;

  o It won't install OOTB due to ATA problems on one older laptop I
    have and when I got it installed (using 3.4 as a bootstrap and a
    wdc based kernel) pcmcia didn't work properly.

  o It doesn't work with the ISA pcmcia controller I have in another
     machine.

  o It produces lots of ATA problems on a reasonable number of machines
    (many of these have been patched in -stable already, though,
    I believe).

I've had no luck tracking down (with help from various good people
here and in -mobile) these problems with 4.0-STABLE and have filed a
pr on the first problem.

I'm running it happily on an all SCSI machine (I wanted the SBLive
support), but it's by no means clean and by no means ready for
full production use, IMO.  This is a .0 release and lots of people
are waiting for the .1 release before using it in production.

I've tried to do some test installs on machines and hit walls of
problems on all bar one machine that I can't solve and no one else
I've talked to seems to be able to either.

People testing 4.0 would be sensible, since if you find problems they
might get fixed sooner and it helps things progress.


This isn't a slam on the project, I don't expect things to work
perfectly first time and strongly appreciate the work and time people
put into it for no monitary return, but saying there is no reason to
wait for 4.1, well ...

P.

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pir                  pir@pir.net                    pir@net.tufts.edu



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