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Date:      Thu, 18 May 2000 02:43:50 +0530
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: better than pine?
Message-ID:  <20000518024350.F16497@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
In-Reply-To: <20000517202936.H21557@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:29:36PM %2B0100
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005162201530.75114-100000@home.offwhite.net> <200005171727.KAA09714@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> <20000517202936.H21557@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>

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Ben Smithurst said on May 17, 2000 at 20:29:36:

> On the subject of Pine, can someone explain this?
> 
> ben@strontium:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/{mutt,slrn,pine}
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   367592  7 Nov  1999 /usr/local/bin/mutt*
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2374520  5 Jun  1999 /usr/local/bin/pine*
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   171532  2 Jan 21:20 /usr/local/bin/slrn*
> 
> Pine is over four times bigger than my mail client and news client put
> together.  Why??  From what I've seen, Pine is a featureless pile of
> junk.  It doesn't even do colours or threading.  How on earth is Pine
> over 2MB??  Is it entering the "most bloated communications program"
> competition alongside Outlook Express or something?

Well it does have a crude HTML parser, a built-in editor, and a
mechanism to directly send mail to a server via SMTP.  And it's very
newbie-friendly.  Also I think all the help pages are built into
the executable, rather than stored separately on the disk; but that
can't account for a 2 MB difference, it's true.

On that subject, why is lynx so much bloated than w3m?  Apart from
slightly better cookie handling, what does it do that w3m doesn't?
And w3m does a lot of other things like tables and frames.

Rahul.


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