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Date:      Fri, 07 Jul 2000 19:35:29 GMT
From:      Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>
To:        Peter.McGarvey@telinco.net
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Q: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER?
Message-ID:  <20000707.19352900@bartequi.ottodomain.org>
In-Reply-To: <3966015C.FCDCD1F5@telinco.net>
References:  <3966015C.FCDCD1F5@telinco.net>

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On 7/7/00, 5:12:12 PM, Peter McGarvey <Peter.McGarvey@telinco.net> wrote=
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regarding Q: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER?:


> In building a new kernel, I can add support for IPFIREWALL and=20
IPFILTER.

> What I'd like to know is what's the difference?

> And which is better?

> And is both a bad idea?

> The only firewalls I've ever dealt with are of the packet filtering=20
sort
> built into routers.  But now I'm playing with a FreeBSD box with 3=20
NICs
> so it seems like a good time to learn a bit more about firewalls.
> Discovering that FreeBSD supports two I went looking for some sort of
> comparison between the two.  But couldn't find anything.  Hence, the
> above questions.

> --
> TTFN, FNORD

> Peter McGarvey, Unix Administrator
> Network Operations Center, Telinco Limited



Dear Peter McGarvey,

I would not like to start a theological dispute in the least :-)

Both of them can be configured with stateful rules. My (as yet=20
limited) understanding is that, essentially, they perform analogous=20
functions albeit ipfilter seems to be slighly more flexible.

BTW, as an exercise, I am developing solutions based on both.

You may wish to have a look at Marc's tutorial (on ipfw), which is=20
found at http://www.freeebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall: mutatis=20
mutandis, it will provide an excellent starting point; other general=20
information (about firewalls) is found in the handbook.

You might also want to read the relevant man pages (security(7);=20
ipfw(8); ipf(1,4,5)), and/or browse a few sites dealing with security=20
(e.g. http://www.cert.org); as regards ipfilter at large, you may wish=20
to begin reading
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/firewalls/ipf-howto.txt;=20
in addition, you will want to search the archives, in particular=20
-security, and gather further (more or less theological) information.

One last note.=20
A couple of days ago a dangerous network-related bug was detected: you=20
may wish to retrieve kern/19722.

HTH just a tiny bit,
Salvo





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