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Date:      Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:31:18 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        Brandon Fosdick <bfoz@glue.umd.edu>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Dangerously Dedicated 
Message-ID:  <200011192231.eAJMVIF09854@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:15:58 MST." <14872.20766.675326.503604@nomad.yogotech.com> 

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> > > Using what I consider to be a artifact of another operating system on a
> > > machine that doesn't use that OS seems silly to me. Unless, of course,
> > > that artifact has some useful feature(s) or functionality. If it does, I'm
> > > all ears.
> > 
> > What "you consider" doesn't have much bearing on the situation.  As for 
> > useful functionality, this has been done to death.  It should be enough 
> > for you to accept that the platform requires it
> 
> Except that it doesn't, as 'dangerously dedicated' mode shows.

"DD" mode has never worked properly.  Ever since it's been in existence, 
it's show that a valid slice table is necessary.

> >, and that a goodly slice 
> > of platform-compliant firmware and software will fail in undesirable ways 
> > if it's not present.  All of which has been explained in excruciating 
> > detail before.
> 
> Except that the software hasn't always required it previously, and it
> previously did not fail.

It has, and it previously did fail.

> Some would call this 'regression', but I suppose others will call it
> 'progress'.

Some would just call it "making stuff work", which is the whole point of 
the exercise.

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
           V I C T O R Y   N O T   V E N G E A N C E




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