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Date:      Mon, 4 Dec 2000 00:42:58 -0600
From:      "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@iteration.net>
To:        Boris Popov <bp@butya.kz>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks
Message-ID:  <20001204004258.A54339@peorth.iteration.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012041146060.58929-100000@lion.butya.kz>; from bp@butya.kz on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:18:55PM %2B0600
References:  <20001203195226.A53011@peorth.iteration.net> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012041146060.58929-100000@lion.butya.kz>

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On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:18:55PM +0600, Boris Popov scribbled:
| On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Michael C . Wu wrote:
| > Boris, How much is USD$170,000.00 in Russian Rubles?
| > And if you do not mind, please give us a rough estimate of how much
| > a Russian kernel hacker gets paid an year?  :)
| >
| > USD$510,000.00 for copyright, code, and one unix-guru's 6 months' work.
| > Hmmm, where do I sign up for the job? :)
|       Well, lets do some calculations to convert these trailing zeros
| to a monthly "salary":
|
|       170000 / 6 = 28333.3(3)
|       510000 / 6 = 85000.00
|
|       The first number is about 18 - 36 times bigger than the monthly
| salary of the good C/C++ programmer (one may calculate the same for a
| second number, I don't wan't to look at result :). Eg, if you find a way
| to transfer money to the CIS area, then someone (possibly a group of
| people) can easily dedicate 12 hours per day for this task :)

Why, here are some stats regarding programmers in Taiwan and China:
(Taiwan has a much higher living standard than China)

Taiwan:
CS phD./MS graduates with up to 4 years experience
from NTU/NCTU/NTHU/NCKU (The top 4 technical school
in Taiwan, graduates usually go abroad to study in
MIT/Stanford/Cambridge/Berkelely/Oxford. Yes, your VIA chipsets,
D-Link boards, Realtek, Abit, Asus, et al. were designed by these people)

NTD$60000/month = USD$2000/month
Excellent programmers in Taiwan, professors,
IEEE-CS/ACM Fellows in OS or Filesystems = USD$4000/month
$170000/6 ~= $28000/month
    ($28000/month)/($4000/month) = 7 times

China:
CS phd/ms graduates with 4 years experience from various top of the line
universities.  (China's whole population competing for 50000 (at most)
enrollment seats.  cream of the crop)

RMB$1000/month = USD$200/month
Excellent programmers, professors, IEEE-CS/ACM Fellows specializing
        in filesystems in China= USD$400/month
$170000/6 ~= $28000/month
    ($28000/month)/($400/month) = 70 times

Hence, if I were to take Terry's consulting contracts at half price
and contract them out in various other countries.  I could be
making 50%-75% profit and maybe produce a possibly better product
in a much shorter timeframe.

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