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Date:      Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:20:39 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <TrimYourCc@NUXI.com>
To:        freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: the abi
Message-ID:  <20010102012039.A31690@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <200101020121.UAA22022@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com>; from dje@watson.ibm.com on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:21:27PM -0500
References:  <TrimYourCc@NUXI.com> <200101020121.UAA22022@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com>

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On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:21:27PM -0500, David Edelsohn wrote:
> 	FreeBSD/PowerPC is a great development platofmr for embedded
> systems.  That is exactly the point: it is the host, not the target.

Actually I'm looking forward to the target.

> One should be able to run eABI applications created by a
> cross-compiler,

Why use a cross-compiler when you can just use the native one?
I'm not sure I'm going to put the ability to do either in the base
system.

> but using eABI will just subtly hurt the FreeBSD/PowerPC port because
> of the stricter alignment requirements making the host OS run slower on
> non-embedded PowerPC processors than necessary.

This is true, but I'm not that concerned about the performance hit.

> PowerPC-based Macs, IBM POP boards, and RS/6000 systems do not use
> embedded PowerPC processors.

The purpose of the PowerPC effort [at least mine] is not to complete with
Darwin and run on Mac's, but to provide a platform for PowerPC embedded
development.  Those that push JKH and others hard for a PowerPC port want
it for use in the embedded market.  The G4 would just be the reference
and development box -- but not the main use and target.

I am not sure anyone will take the PowerPC port and polish it for desktop
or server use.

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
          GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX


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