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Date:      Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:16:58 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>
To:        "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, wilko@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: RELNOTESng update
Message-ID:  <20010106001658.A70625@freebie.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200101051950.f05Jo0H24919@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:50:00AM -0800
References:  <200101051950.f05Jo0H24919@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>

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On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:50:00AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:

> 1.  Conditional text so we can support multiple architectures from one 
> set of source files (no more editing {i386,alpha}/RELNOTES.TXT).

Yes! 

> 2.  The Supported Hardware lists from HARDWARE.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT 
> have been combined.

For alpha I have my doubts about this. There is far too much 
untested hardware on alpha, and experience has shown that x86 != alpha
even when would expect no cpu-port specifics. This is fundamental
problem because we lack a wide alpha user base. And hence lack widespread
testing of hardware.

> 3.  DocBook markup, so we can generate release notes in multiple 
> formats.

Good idea.

> At this point I would like to get some input from people.  In
> particular:
> 
> 1.  First and foremost, is the concept a Good Thing(TM)?  I'm pretty
> convinced we need something like this (particularly to deal with
> multiple architectures and information listed in various places).  But
> if the consensus is "no", I want to bail out now.

For me it is a good thing.

> 2.  Since I only use i386 architecture machines, I want to make sure
> we can cover the alpha (and later the ia64, sparc, ppc, or whatever
> else turns up).  So I'd like some alpha folks to look their version
> over.  One question I'd like to get answered: The alpha has its own
> HARDWARE.TXT file listing different processor/motherboard notes.  I'd
> like to know people's thoughts about folding this in as well
> (particularly from Wilko, since he's maintaining it).

I'm more than willing to convert alpha/HARDWARE.TXT into the right 
input format. Assuming I'm allowed to bug someone about the right formatting
tools etc ;-)

I do not want to pull the HW.TXT into the Relnotes. I don't think that this
is a good idea. For me release notes are a thing that should be as small and
comprehensive as possible. More static info, like details on hardware
support etc, should be kept seperate. 

> 3.  At some point, I'll need to talk to someone who's familiar with
> "make release" to see about how to integrate this into the build.  It'll

You want someone to look at that, no doubt. I've had some, um, interesting
discussions with David when I screwed up the release makefile during
introduction of alpha's HW.TXT. My bad, but not something to repeat.

Wilko

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