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Date:      Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:24:05 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        Stefan Molnar <stefan@csudsu.com>, "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware?
Message-ID:  <200101090024.f090O5K31687@earth.backplane.com>
References:  <128310000.978895262@grolsch.ai> <4.3.2.20010108174340.020ee910@207.227.119.2>

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:>I have noticed that the eepro does not like some hubs/switches.
:>I have a netgear 8 port 10mb switch, and the eepro just goes to
:>a crawl with the same things you see.   I have tried over a dozen
:>eepro cards (had this switch for almost 2 years), and countless
:>ethernet cables.  I bought a 4 port hub, connected the xover to the
:>swtitch and the eepro on the hub, and bamf, those problems went
:>away.   The tulip cards that most of the eepros replaced worked
:>very happly.
:
:Almost every 8255x card works just fine with a Netgear FS105 here in all 
:modes.  Say "almost" since I don't have an old 82556 card around.  One of 
:systems has a newer version on an Asus A7V running -stable, so doubt the 
:problem is with FBSD or the card.  Good cables and nailing down the modes 
:fix most problems.  Most likely a hardware or disposition, as we seem to 
:say "doesn't like" when problems like this crop up, issue here.
:
:Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
:Systems/Network Administrator
:FreeBSD - the power to serve
 
    I've had incredibly good luck with the netgear FS516 (16 port unmanaged
    switch), more then I probably deserve.  I haven't had a single problem
    using them to distribute our office LAN.  However, I get mixed results
    with the smaller netgear switches (e.g. 5 and 8-port babies), and would
    not recommend them.

    Here's a an interesting review in PC Mag of various managed and unmanaged
    switches.  It doesn't say a lot about the unmanaged switches, but it
    is interesting nonetheless.

	http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2331808,00.html

    In anycase, as a general rule nobody should even be contemplating using
    a hub in these modern times.  If you are cheap, then get a cheap switch.
    If you are loaded,then get a loaded switch :-)

						-Matt



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