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Date:      Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:47:13 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Clive Lin <clive@CirX.ORG>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules
Message-ID:  <20010301234712.A47820@mollari.cthul.hu>
In-Reply-To: <20010302033532.A69557@cartier.cirx.org>; from clive@CirX.ORG on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:35:32AM %2B0800
References:  <200103011801.f21I1VW48363@freefall.freebsd.org> <xzpd7c147wi.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20010302033532.A69557@cartier.cirx.org>

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On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:35:32AM +0800, Clive Lin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 08:16:13PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > Clive Lin <clive@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> > >   Log:
> > >     alephone --> ports/games/alephone
> >=20
> > What's this, "moderate BUGTRAQ as fast as you can"?
>=20
> I have no idea why this Doom like, or Q3A like, or Counter Strike
> like, or ... anyway, a 3D killing game, has the same name as BUGTRAQ
> moderator :>
>=20
> heh, I even do lc("AlephOne") and hope nobody notices it..

They both take their name from the Hebrew letter Aleph and the
subscript 1, which is the notation for the mathematical concept of an
uncountable infinity -- as opposed to a countable infinity ("aleph
null"), i.e. an infinite set you can pair up with the natural numbers
1, 2, 3, ... . The integers (..., -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, ...) are an example
of a countably infinite set, whereas the real numbers are an example
of an uncountably infinite set.

Interesting mathematical trivia: aleph one is "obviously" larger than
aleph null, but it was an unsolved question for a long time whether
there are any numbers larger than aleph null but smaller than aleph
one, in an appropriate sense.  In fact this is David Hilbert's first
Unsolved Problem from the International Congress of Mathematics in
Paris, 1900 (where he presented a list of 23 major unsolved problems
he believed would serve as challenges and inspirations for
mathematicians in the upcoming century.  Many remain unsolved).  I
believe this question was resolved by Kurt Godel with the answer being
"it depends" (on the axioms of your brand of mathematics you choose).

Kris

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