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Date:      Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:57:56 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        kris@obsecurity.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: -march considered harmful? (Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults make.conf)
Message-ID:  <20010307015756.A36829@mollari.cthul.hu>
In-Reply-To: <20010307014941M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:49:41AM -0800
References:  <20010307005610.A54109@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307013756K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307014607.A34025@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307014941M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>

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On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:49:41AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> If you and Mr Hartman can conclusively prove that his problems were
> NOT caused by this then I'll discard the other whisperings I've heard
> and agree that the reason is not "demonstrable" here.  Absence of
> evidence is not evidence of absence, however, and I think YOU may be
> the one leaping to conclusions here now.  I don't see anything better
> than vague handwaving about how David would have certainly caught an
> optimization error if one had existed in gcc, however, and that's such
> a sweeping statement that I'm having a hard time even forming the
> mental imagery involved.

I'm saying that David, our Compiler Guy, has reviewed all of my
CPUTYPE patches and seemed enthusiastic about them, and I was
therefore assuming he was happy that none of the options thus
activated were known to be significant risks.  However I don't want to
put words in his mouth so will let David give his real opinion for
himself.

I still think that putting a warning saying, in effect, "NEVER USE
THIS!!" on the basis of one report claimed to be the result of using
-march=i686 is a huge dose of FUD and flies in the face of the body of
experience suggesting that -march is, in fact, quite safe to use
universally.

Kris

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