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Date:      Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:59:18 +0100
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Peter Pentchev <roam@orbitel.bg>
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] add a SITE MD5 command to ftpd
Message-ID:  <20010314105918.A5204@roaming.cacheboy.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010314012132.A91957@dragon.nuxi.com>; from TrimYourCc@NUXI.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:21:33AM -0800
References:  <20010313211544.B17733@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <200103140459.VAA03061@usr05.primenet.com> <20010314084651.A23104@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010314012132.A91957@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Wed, Mar 14, 2001, David O'Brien wrote:

> Perhaps you should fill in the details then.  First you say
> "SITE MD5 filename" will keep us from having to download a binary to
> check it.  Then that the check will not really be used for anything.
> So _exactly_ how do you propose this feature to be used?  Only by the
> fenner script?  If so, I think we can provide suffient bandwidth for that
> w/o this "feature".
> 
> How will a site that pretends to have this capability yet does not; not
> make things worse than today?  The only way for that to be the case is
> for nothing/one to trust the result of "SITE MD5 filename" for *any*
> purpose.  If that is the case, why have the "feature"?

"Throw more Bandwidth at it" is a short-sighted answer. When we have say,
30,000 ports in our collection, how do you scale having to download each
one to check?

Lets see. If it were me, I'd take a bunch of machines, distribute them
around the world at strategic network points, run a little "mapper" to
map each box to the closest URLs in the ports collection, and have each
box download them locally.

*OR*, someone can write a patch to add something like SITE MD5 to the
bsd ftpd, perhaps someone can then do the same to wu-ftpd and proftpd,
and then write a small RFC snippet explaining why its a good idea and
see if they can get it ratified. Then, you can have a single box at
yahoo handle 30,000 ports by simply doing MD5 checks, rather than 30,000
ports by downloading each tarball.



Adrian

-- 
Adrian Chadd			"Programming is like sex:
<adrian@freebsd.org>		   One mistake and you have to support for
				    a lifetime." -- rec.humor.funny


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