Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:32:09 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, drosih@rpi.edu, tlambert@primenet.com, arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NO MORE '-BETA' Message-ID: <20010316173209.W29888@fw.wintelcom.net> In-Reply-To: <XFMail.010316172555.jhb@FreeBSD.org>; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:25:55PM -0800 References: <20010316171845.U29888@fw.wintelcom.net> <XFMail.010316172555.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
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* John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> [010316 17:26] wrote: > > On 17-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> [010316 17:16] wrote: > >> > >> On 17-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> > * Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> [010316 16:44] wrote: > >> >> > Let's just add something to cvsup to prompt the user? Or something > >> >> > in the build process that's interactive? or what? > >> >> > >> >> How about turning it off to all but authorized users (those who have > >> >> a registered cvsup key, as on freefall) during release periods? > >> > > >> > The real pain is that there doesn't seem to be a way stop users from > >> > upgrading before they actually do it. > >> > > >> > I think what'll happen is that sometime tomorrow I'll add an option > >> > to newvers.sh to detect a cross version change and have the world > >> > and installworld and installkernel targets check and prompt unless > >> > something like EARLY_ADOPTER=YES is set in make.conf or you're > >> > building a 'release'. > >> > > >> > Would that be ok? > >> > >> So you will prompt them wiht a question that will make them ignore it > >> and cut and paste it into a message and mail it off to a dozen lists > >> screaming about it? If they can't manage to follow -stable or read the > >> FAQ, what makes you think they will bother with reading the message you > >> output with going into hysteria? They've already demonstrated a lack > >> of reading ability or willingness or something. > > > > Those people can go fly a kite. > > These are the same people who complained about -BETA that got you started off > on this whole thread to begin with. Please pick one position and stick with > it, K PLZ THX. I am, my point is that it sucks. Normally just saying something sucks is frowned on, but I'm also giving some ways to fix it. > > You stated that -BETA actually is a bit less stable than -STABLE and > > hence should be -BETA. The problem is that: > > THERE'S NO WARNING UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY BOOT WITH YOUR '-BETA' SYSTEM > > Sure there is, it's called the mailing list. If you cvsup -current there's > also no warning until you boot with your -CURRENT system, although I see you > kindly ignored my pointing that out last time. Because it was a silly point, you need to explicitly modify your cvsup file to do so. Also, my "world target checking with newver.sh" solution would protect you from that as well. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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