Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:50:35 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@flugsvamp.com> To: Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, jlemon@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet fil.c ip_auth.c ip_auth.h ip_compat.h ip_fil.c ip_fil.h ip_frag.c ip_frag.h ip_ftp_pxy.c Message-ID: <20010607095035.U82158@prism.flugsvamp.com> In-Reply-To: <200106071433.AAA07396@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> References: <20010607065857X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <200106071433.AAA07396@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>
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On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 12:33:49AM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > In some email I received from Jordan Hubbard, sie wrote: > > > > I see another mole hill forming itself into a mountain here, and I'd > > think that you of all people would be shying well clear of > > hyper-augmented rodent mounds these days. :) > > Oh, I was trying to avoid it...I'm just glad I've stayed attentive of > what was happening in #bsdcode or I wouldn't have even seen it coming > and then I might have been a bit more upset, especially since nobody > seemed to ask/mention it to me first outside of the commit. That sort > of rudeness I can live with but I wish I didn't have to. A "heads up" > would have been nice but maybe that went to a list I'm not on? I think > Jonathan's comment about hoping I was asleep when he made that commit > sort of sums it all up: > > * anonymous notes darrenr is probably asleep ATM. Actually, I simply made the comment with the expectation that I would be having a pile of mail in the morning. This wasn't intended as a sneak attack at all. While I don't mind you quoting IRC logs, you should at least keep the dates straight; the quotes below are from a week or two back, not yesterday. > * anonymous would like to see all the ipfilter netinet/* stuff moved into another directory regardless of the licensing issues. > <anonymous> I think we had this discussion before, and darren threw a fit that he couldn't handle th changed pathnames. > <anonymous> I think this time, we have enough impetus to move it. > ... > <anonymous> bmilekic: no, I want this stuff out of netinet/* regardless of licensing. > ... > <anonymous> yeah - it's a mtter of timing. one crisis at a time, please. :-) > ... > <anonymous> evilpete: BTW, I've moved ipfilter over to sys/contrib/ipfilter; I'll submit diffs after the current licensing issue is settled. > Too bad they deemed it below themselves to ask me what I thought of this > given I've had time to think this over since the last flame war. Never > mind, I'll just throw all these thoughts/feelings out with the trash as > I'm not going to let it bother me after this. > > I guess there are some developers (geeks) who still need some lessons in > social skills when working in a team environment over the 'net. It is > generally considered the height of rudiness, in my experience, to go and > make a large change in someone else's area of responsibility although you > feel you can get away with it because you don't need to see that person, > face to face, in your day to day life. Um, let me get this straight. Various people have been discussing this for about two weeks, in forums where *you are present*, and by your own admission, you're aware of what's coming, yet there is this claim that you had no input in the process? I'm sorry, I simply don't buy that. Anyway, I think that when all is said and done, regardless of how things were (or were not) handled, there are certain benefits from the new layout that we should see moving forward. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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