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Date:      Sun, 23 Sep 2001 01:15:57 +0100
From:      Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Stephen Hurd <deuce@lordlegacy.org>, Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Helping victims of terror
Message-ID:  <20010923011557.B60374@jake.akitanet.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3BAD1FAE.2F3D40F5@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 04:33:02PM -0700
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On Sep 23, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> wrote:

> The spellings I've seen have been "Osama", not "Usama"; which is
> correct?

I've always seen it as Osama. Usama is closer to how it's pronounced.
 
> Yes, Iraq is a state that is known to sponsor terrorism.

So is the USA - god knows how many operations the CIA have backed, involving
everything from drug smuggling through to terrorism. In fact, they gave
Laden his weaponary and training in the first place. As I've stated
elsewhere, certain portions of the US population don't seem to have a
problem with the IRA either.
 
> I've seen both of those.  If the events are so frivolous as
> you imply, then the U.S. is more concerned with internal
> politics, rather than world opinion.  If that's the case, then
> we would simply have attacked already, and to hell with what
> people think of us, if they are determined to think evil of
> us, as you imply.

Even Bush isn't stupid enough to piss off the EU countries, the UN security
council and NATO. This *is* about internal politics - Bush is attempting to
do what his father did (who in turn learnt from Margaret Thatcher) by
engaging in a war that is positive from a publicity point of view. All this
makes him look good with the electorate. Yes, I am cynical enough to believe
that is his primary motive - he knows he is now far more popular than he was
before the 11th September, and the reason he is popular is because he now
has the oppurtunity to push the right buttons...
 
> Bombing is _nothing_ compared to the other extreme options
> available.

See above. Bush knows, and more importantly his advisors know that if gets
to that point, he has a problem with the whole of the UN. The US might be
big, but it's not big enough to avoid getting into the shit.
 
> You have a lot of terrorists claiming credit before the act
> over there, do you?  It would seem to me with that information,
> you should be able to prevent the acts.

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