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Date:      Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:34:43 +0100
From:      Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk>
To:        jason <kib@mediaone.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com>
Subject:   Re: What is it good for? (was "Helping Victims of Terror")
Message-ID:  <20010923123443.B270@jake.akitanet.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <024601c143d4$37253e80$89941bd8@speakeasy.net>; from kib@mediaone.net on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 10:05:25PM -0400
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010922153752.017f8b18@threespace.com> <024601c143d4$37253e80$89941bd8@speakeasy.net>

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On Sep 23, jason <kib@mediaone.net> wrote:

> I agree with you in most parts but think I should correct you on one point.

Be prepared to be corrected yourself then.
 
> Usama Bin Laden is not a citizen of Afghanistan.  He is from Saudi Arabia.

... where he had his citizenship stripped ...

> The reason he is pissed off at America is because Saudi allowed our troops
> into the some Islamic Holy city (forget the name) back during the
> Iraq/Kuwait deal.

No, that is about 1% of the reason he's pissed off. It's the reason the US
government are giving out, becuase they don't want to have to discuss covert
CIA operations that involved him. Elsewhere on this list I've given a better
briefing, but I'll just point out again:

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CH0109C.html

Then you might understand why he's pissed off. He still needs punishing, his
actions are still wrong, but they are in part, provoked.
 
> And according to the FBI 10 most wanted list, his name is Usama not
> Osama...just found that out minutes ago.

In that case the FBI are wrong. It may be pronounced Usama, but Osama is a
far more common name in Saudi. DYOR. You have the Internet at your disposal
and I'm sure you're able to find out how his name is spelt without having to
resort to relying on the FBI. :-)

At the moment, I have to say, I am astounded that so many intelligent people
on this list have swallowed the official line without having done some
research themselves. You're all better than this, and instead of jsut
quoting mass media use the tools at your disposal and that one thing you
must have that caused you to choose FreeBSD - a large and above average
intelligence - and make your own descisions. Challenge your leaders, and
your media, to answer the questions that fall in front of you. And after all
that you're likely to come to one of the following conclusions:

1. Let's bomb them anyway
2. Let's try and talk our way out of this
3. We deserved it

I go for option number two myself, but can understand both options one and
three and why people would consider them ideal.

--
PR

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