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Date:      Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:46:40 -0700
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cristjc@earthlink.net>
To:        Tyler Durden <Tyler@projectmayhem.info>
Cc:        Free BSD-Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Sysinstall questions
Message-ID:  <20011016214640.O4437@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <B7F24060.3E4B%Tyler@projectmayhem.info>; from Tyler@projectmayhem.info on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 07:52:00PM -0700
References:  <004201c15210$32c4d7c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <B7F24060.3E4B%Tyler@projectmayhem.info>

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On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 07:52:00PM -0700, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have used /stand/sysinstall to install various packages through ftp.
> 
> I am now interested in installing newer versions of the packages and would
> like to continue using sysinstall to do so.
> 
> However, if I try to access the current list of packages through ftp in
> sysinstall, I get the same list of packages that I got the first time that I
> tried this.
> 
> In sysinstall, I go through: Configure>Packages>FTP>(choose an ftp
> site)>(confirm network)>(it says that it is receiving index)>(I get a list
> of directories. But the packages contained within are same old list that
> I've seen time after time. It would seem to me that this procedure should
> produce the current directories of the packages.

The sysinstall(8) you installed with 4.4-RELEASE _always_ will look at
the package listing for 4.4-RELEASE unless you tell it otherwise. Once
a release is made, it is frozen. The packages for 4.4-RELEASE will
never change.

> Is there a way to refresh this list? I know that there are newer packages
> available on the ftp site (I've poked around the directories with an ftp
> client and found them). But for some reason, sysinstall always gives me the
> same list. What am I doing wrong?

If you go into the 'Options' option for sysinstall(8), you can chose
which release to use. Thing is, 4.4-RELEASE is the latest release. I
_thought_ I knew how to work around this, how to give sysinstall(8)
the exact path to look for packages, but I can't seem to remember
how. ;/

> If sysinstall won't update this list, I think I've found the alternative
> procedure of ftp'ing the package, and using pkg_add (but I am much more
> comfortable using sysinstall if I can. The command line interface still
> frightens this newbie).

That's what sysinstall(8) actually is doing behind the menus
anyway. You should learn how to do it. If you've done it once or
twice, you should have it down.

> Secondary question: Do I have to remove a previous package before I install
> a newer one? Or does the new package simply install on top of the old
> installation without problems?

No, ideally, you should remove the previous package first. The
footprint of the new package may not exactly match the new one which
means you may have files from the old one lying around. It _probably_
will not cause problems, but it could and some admins just don't like
being "untidy."

> P.S.-I've tried to send this message several times and it has yet to get
> through to the list (yet when I use the same account and send it to another
> list, it comes through almost immediately). Are certain domains being
> blocked, or is there another issue here?

Usually DNS issues. hub.freebsd.org only accepts mail from machines
with valid DNS records for their address.
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                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
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