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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:50:53 +0100 (CET)
From:      Nils Holland <nils@tisys.org>
To:        "Patrick O'Reilly" <patrick@mip.co.za>
Cc:        FreeBSD Question List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Softupdates
Message-ID:  <20011126144141.A6950-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net>
In-Reply-To: <NDBBIMKICMDGDMNOOCAICENGDPAA.patrick@mip.co.za>

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Patrick O'Reilly wrote:

> I've started using softupdates on a new server. Wow!!!
>
> Question: Is it safe to use softupdates on ALL disks?  I have a nagging
> recollection that someone once said it should NOT be used on /.

Without doubt, softupdates makes it likely that you would lose more data
in case of a power failure or (which is very rare under FreeBSD) a system
crash. There is actually no technical reason why softupdates should not be
enabled on /. It is only a recommendation that someone may have given, and
it's your job to decide if you want to follow that recommendation or not.

On my own systems, I have softupdates enabled for everything, including /.
There have not been any problems so far, while performance has obviously
increased compared to softupdates turned off. In order to protect myself
from the increased chance of data loss, I keep regular backups, which is a
good idea anyway.

One more thing that happens in conjunction with softupdates is the
following: If you have softupdates turned on for /usr, have a look at df
-h before you empty /usr/obj (or any other big directory) the next time.
Right after the directory has been emptied, do df -h again. Then wait a
minute and do even one more df -h. You will notice that the updating of
the free space on your filesystems gets delayed with softupdates turned
on. This may mean that under heavy file creation activities, your
filesystem may already be full before it's actually visible that it's
full, i.e. before the accountig information have been updated. However, I
don't think that this should keep you from turning softupdated on for /.

All in all I think you can safely turn softupdates on for /.

Greetings
Nils


Nils Holland
Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany
http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org


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