Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:55:56 +1030 From: Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> Cc: Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a new FS to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011216115556.A62493@monorchid.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <3C1B3189.CD0B1D1A@mindspring.com> References: <20011214141518.E73243@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <3C1A09BB.DEBCB854@mindspring.com> <20011215102442.E85108@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C1B0C44.E5A108A4@mindspring.com> <20011215193226.J87600@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C1B3189.CD0B1D1A@mindspring.com>
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On Saturday, 15 December 2001 at 3:18:33 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> Unfortunately, it's still copyrighted. You need an SCO license; want >> to go and get one of them? It doesn't cost anything, but I can't give >> the software to anybody who hasn't agreed to the conditions. > > 8.4(b) says you can't give it to anyone, even if they do have the > license, unless you contact Caldera first, and then maintain (in > perpeturity) a list of the sources made available. This is rather contradicted by the bottom of http://www2.caldera.com/offers/ancient001/: Now that you have agreed to the license you may choose to apply for access to their archive of older UNIX or request a CD of this archive. I'm one of the people who make the archive available, so feel free to contact me :-) > I think we are screwed by section 2.1(d) anyway: > > Commercial use by LICENSEE of SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS or > of any result, enhancement or modification associated > with the use of SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS under this AGREEMENT > is not permitted. > > Basically, I couldn't get an article out of it because I could't > disclose it to anyone but a licensesee, and only a licensee could > use the code, and I couldn't give source to the licensee without > the permission of Caldera, and once they had the code, they could > not use it for anything commercial unless they negotiated a seperate > commercial use license. That may be easier than you think. I'm copying Warren Toomey on this. Warren is (a) a FreeBSD user and (b) the person who negotiated these contracts in the first place. Warren, Peter is thinking of porting the 2BSD file system (not sure whether that's UFS or the original UNIX file system) to FreeBSD. As Terry observes, the current license doesn't allow that. Terry, the other thing you *can* do is access the source code once you have agreed to the conditions. See the reference to http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/cgi-bin/pupsco.cgi at the bottom of the page http://www2.caldera.com/offers/ancient001/. Change this to http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/pupsco.cgi and you should be able to access it. Again, Warren is the person to talk to if you have trouble. > Frankly, if you want to provide small disk images (preferrably, very > small, not multimegabyte) as I've described are needed anyway, along > with a description of the what's on the images, along with such > layout information as you feel comfortable providing, I'd pretty > much rather reverse engineer the stuff than get a Caldera license. It's a slow way of doing things. Of course, if this is an old version of UFS, you might find it easy enough to get our current UFS to grok the layout. Note that Caldera is merely doing due diligence here; I don't think that they really care too much. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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