Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:40:49 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> To: FreeBSD List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: This is *not* a racist comment Message-ID: <20020103004049.GC13841@raggedclown.net> In-Reply-To: <vwadvwb8ot.dvw@localhost.localdomain> References: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10201021003360.13371-100000@buffnet11.buffnet.net> <87ell8lezp.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> <vwadvwb8ot.dvw@localhost.localdomain>
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On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 04:05:22PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Ken McGlothlen <mcglk@artlogix.com> writes: > > > Eventually, I barred all of them from connecting with my SMTP server. I wish > > freebsd.org would do the same. > > Be careful with such actions or at least with admitting them. I > remember when a guy on the Linux kernel list admitted to that sort of > thing (for Brazil?) and he probably felt like he'd been stampeded by a > gnu herd. He had the bad luck to have especially offended the guy > who held the keys to a door he was trying to get through (a patch or > bug-fix or something) and who let the guy know the door was going to > stay closed to him. Others expressed their displeasure in more typical > ways. I don't recall if he was called a racist, but one should beware > the lawyers. > I posed the original question. I am very loathe to reject anybody's posting because of country of origin, and I certainly don't think a mailing list should do so. It seems to be true that certain countries have ISP's with very lax infrastructural rules. Many of these .tw's are unresolvable anyway so god alone knows what is happening. Of course many of the people using spam relays may have difficulty pointing out on a map where the country the relay they use is located, let alone live there. Having said that it is an identifiable problem, and I think my spam filters will award marks for origin when considering mail as candidates for spam, but not so many marks that they automatically cross the threshold. From the spam bucket I can then painstakingly try to see something that would identifiably reduce the spam scorer. This is an awful lot of frigging work because of this disease caused deliberately or accidentally by badly setup mail relayers. Also its should be born in mind that people with genuine postings to lists such as these from these countries may be very starved of resources a lot of people here take for granted. To be honest, if I was going to reject mail on origin (not just national) I would ban all users of free-mail services (hotmail, yahoo etc), all users of aol, anyone with numbers in the email name, anyone with a non-compliant RFC email address (yes, some of you guys out there on this list have technically speaking illegal email addresses), anyone with a pointy-nose, and anyone whose first name is Anthony (sorry, sorry..couldn't resist that)... Then I would check all the email programs that people use, anyone using Outlook(Express) -- off with their heads --, then anyone who didn't break lines at column 72-76, then anyone who sent HTML, then anyone who sent attachments to mailing lists, then anyone who votes Republican, or uses fetchmail (since that was written by someone who is a member of the NRA, an organisation of which I disapprove), let me see.. that would leave me with .. mmmm.. Oh yes, I would ban the Brits as well, they are so toffee-nosed, hey that would mean banning myself.. -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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