Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin <mi@aldan.algebra.com> To: petef@databits.net Cc: hetzels@westbend.net, jeh@FreeBSD.ORG, joseph@randomnetworks.com, lioux@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, nbm@mithrandr.moria.org Subject: Re: Multiple packages from one port Message-ID: <200201032313.g03NDPf56011@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <20020103164130.D82299@databits.net>
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On 3 Jan, Pete Fritchman wrote: > | > I've introduced about 10 of my friends to FreeBSD in the past few > | > months, all of them being fairly unix illiterate. They all *love* > | > packages. I can't get them to touch ports -- they think it's too > | > complicated. > | > | Perhaps, you are not explaining it to them well enough?.. Why is > | > | cd /usr/ports/whatever/you-want > | make install clean > | > | any more complicated, than > | > | cd /cdrom/ports/packages/All > | pkg_add you-want.tgz > > - there can be errors when compiling a port Not in the tested ports snapshot shipped on the CDs. > - confusion about options to select with ports that have a dialog(1) > configure script There is just as much (or as little) confusion in picking foo-mysql-nox11-au vs. foo-pgsql-gb > - remembering to update ports As if packages don't need updating... > - the concept of an "old" work/ directory (remember, these are people > using unix for the first time) I don't know this concept... ``make install clean'' does not require it. > - takes too long (well, this doesn't come under complicated, but while > I'm listing complaints/problems they had...) > If you aren't interested in packages, then ignore the ports designed > with the only purpose of making a specialized package and let the > people who _are_ interested in packages deal with making a new system > and having these ports removed in time. That would be a fine compromise between immediate removal of the ports in question and inviting more such ports in the future... Assuming, that the people you mention do indeed work on the issue, instead of introducing more and more such ports -- further degrading the integrity of the ports collection (wow, what a phrase!). -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message
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