Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:21:12 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <20020402162112.B26122@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <004501c1da0f$7cd67a80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> <004501c1da0f$7cd67a80$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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On Tuesday, 2 April 2002 at 8:27:36 +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Terry writes: > >> You guys were arguing about Netscape not working, and then you go >> and point me at Netscape... sheesh. > > Windows 3.1 doesn't work very well, either, but it's obsolete, too. What does that have to do with the statement to which it's attached? >> Sorry, I don't want to invest 6 hours pulling down sources just to >> find out I need more sources, until eventually I have converted >> whatever OS I am using into Linux. > > This would only take a few minutes if you were running Windows. OK, I'll bite. How do I compile Galeon (or any other free software, for that matter) under Microsoft without first finding lots of other odds and ends I need? What Terry (was that really Terry? I thought it was Daniel) was referring to isn't true, anyway, since the Ports Collection would do it for you automatically, though it's possible that it could take a while. >> I'm pretty sure that Galeon a whole bunch of stuff, plus the Galeon >> stuff, to work. Is this correctly quoted? It doesn't make any sense. > Not as simple as Windows, eh? What isn't as simple as "Windows"? Why? >> People were complaining about it on -hackers, just the other day, >> when it took them 8 hours to pull it down over their 28k modem. > > See above. It's faster to do it over a 28.8 kb/s modem with Microsoft? Give me a break. >> Can you point us at *binary* releases for versious OSs? > > For Windows, see http://www.microsoft.com. For UNIX, set aside a > free week to work on the problem. I don't see any galeon binaries there. Please give the correct URL. >> This includes browsing. It doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense >> to run some other OS, if your intent is to not run that OS on your >> servers, as well ... > > Servers and desktops are two different types of machines. It doesn't make > sense to run sendmail on your desktops, either. This is a viewpoint you haven't substantiated. >> ... so a UNIX ship will have UNIX desktops, and they will probably >> be the same flavor of UNIX as they have deployed for their hosting >> facilities ... > > That is, one of 7,482 flavors of UNIX in the world, all incompatible > with each other unless you recompile source from scratch. Not true. I use Linux binaries as a matter of course on my FreeBSD boxes. > Do you see the Windows advantage? No. >> ... since it also makes little sense to have to keep people up to >> speed on several OSs, rather than, say, doing useful work. > > And that's why so many shops just adopt Windows for everything, > since they need it on the desktops already. Nobody needs Microsoft. It's just the path of least resistance. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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