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Date:      Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:45:07 -0300 (ART)
From:      Fernando Gleiser <fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar>
To:        Gregory Keefe <keefeg@keefeg.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Softupdates
Message-ID:  <20020414122514.E5464-100000@cactus.fi.uba.ar>
In-Reply-To: <002301c1e31e$1dbe2850$9865fea9@GPC>

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On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Gregory Keefe wrote:

> FreeBSD Claim:
> http://www.freebsd.org/features.html
> Soft Updates allows improved file system performance without sacrificing
> safety and reliability
>
> A Unix Expert's Claim:
> http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/reliability.html
> ``Do not use async or softupdates filesystems. If you do, and if your system
> crashes at the wrong moment, you will lose [data].''
>
> http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/multilog.html
> ``Beware that NFS, async filesystems, and softupdates filesystems may
> discard files that were not safely written to disk before an outage.''
>
> Which should I believe?
>
>

Sofupdates ensure that the *filesystem* is not corrupt after a crash.
They don't say anything about *data*. You may lose data after a crash.
If you are worried about losing data, you can mount the filesystems
sync, but I don't think you'll like the performance. =0)

IMHO, filesystem corruption is far worse than data loss of the last writes
before the crash.

Use softupdates on your filesystems and use a good UPS and hardware to
minimize the risk of a crash.

You have a good UPS on your production systems, dont you =0)



				Fer



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