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Date:      Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:39:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   ssh + compiled-in SKEY support considered harmful?
Message-ID:  <200204230039.g3N0dQ8i011313@winston.freebsd.org>

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We at Apple are noticing a strange problem with newer versions of
ssh (which has been upgraded to OpenSSH_3.1p1) and FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE's
sshd. This problem did not occur with our older ssh, but it also does not
occur with the newer version and *any* other OS other than FreeBSD, e.g.
if you ssh to a Linux or Solaris or Mac OS X box, for that matter, you
will not see this behavior.  What behavior am I talking about?  This:

jhubbard@wafer-> ssh jkh@winston.freebsd.org
otp-md5 114 wi7854 ext
S/Key Password: 
otp-md5 117 wi5044 ext
S/Key Password: 
otp-md5 397 wi0652 ext
S/Key Password: 
jkh@winston.freebsd.org's password: 

The machine "wafer" is a Mac OS X box running 10.1.3 and winston.freebsd.org
is running FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE.  The authentication method which tries
this S/Key stuff is "keyboard-interactive" and this is tried, for some
reason, before the "password" auth method.  If you compile sshd on
the FreeBSD side without SKEY support built-in, the problem also goes away.

My question:  Who's "wrong" here, FreeBSD or Mac OS X?  If the latter,
why doesn't Linux or anything else produce this problem?  I ask now
because I know that the usage of Mac OS X is growing and there are going
to be a lot of annoyed users (like me!) who very quickly get tired
of having to wind through all the bogus S/Key password prompts before
they can actually type in their real password (and no, skey is not
enabled on winston and I have never done a keyinit operation, so I couldn't
S/Key authenticate to it if I wanted to).

- Jordan

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