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Date:      Mon, 06 May 2002 21:19:45 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>
To:        grog@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        chris@masto.com, jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za, brooks@one-eyed-alien.net, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 wi.4
Message-ID:  <20020506.211945.111478471.imp@village.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com>
References:  <20020505.143435.103661399.imp@village.org> <20020506135655.GA67245@netmonger.net> <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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In message: <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com>
            "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Monday,  6 May 2002 at 11:20:28 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message: <20020506135655.GA67245@netmonger.net>
: >             Christopher Masto <chris@masto.com> writes:
: >> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 02:34:35PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: >>> Sounds good to me.  I don't mind breaking it in 5.0, so we'll have 4.x
: >>> adhoc means what it means now, and 5.x it will just be an alias for
: >>> ibss or ibss-master or whatever makes sense.
: >>
: >> Is it possible to start displaying a warning at some point, so people
: >> using adhoc will know it's slated to change?  Or say I get one of
: >> these and use "adhoc" without carefully reading the documentation, it
: >> should tell me that it doesn't think that word means what I think it
: >> means. :-)
: >
: > You mean like
: >
: > wi0: You keep using adhoc.  I don't think it means what you think it means.
: 
: Well, more like:
: 
: wi0: deprecated term 'adhoc' used.  Check man page for replacements.

You totally missed the joke.

: Interesting question.  You only need to create an IBSS once per IBSS
: network.  I now have definitive proof that the station which creates
: the IBSS doesn't do very much: I've taken that station out of the net,
: and the other two machines can still talk to each other.  But I can
: see issues when more than one station creates the IBSS: the net could
: partition itself into two different IBSSs, so I suspect we should keep
: the distinction, though the term "master" seems less appropriate.

Yes, but you need to keep recreating it from time to time, as these
things time out.  "master" will be there until you convince OpenBSD to
change, so quit harping on that.

Warner

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