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Date:      Tue, 7 May 2002 14:58:34 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
Cc:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>, chris@masto.com, jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 wi.4
Message-ID:  <20020507145834.P63106@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020506222616.B1977@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
References:  <20020505.143435.103661399.imp@village.org> <20020506135655.GA67245@netmonger.net> <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020506.211945.111478471.imp@village.org> <20020506222616.B1977@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>

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On Monday,  6 May 2002 at 22:26:17 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 09:19:45PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> In message: <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com>
>>> Interesting question.  You only need to create an IBSS once per IBSS
>>> network.  I now have definitive proof that the station which creates
>>> the IBSS doesn't do very much: I've taken that station out of the net,
>>> and the other two machines can still talk to each other.  But I can
>>> see issues when more than one station creates the IBSS: the net could
>>> partition itself into two different IBSSs, so I suspect we should keep
>>> the distinction, though the term "master" seems less appropriate.
>>
>> Yes, but you need to keep recreating it from time to time, as these
>> things time out.  "master" will be there until you convince OpenBSD to
>> change, so quit harping on that.
>
> My intented implementation is that adhoc will mean ibss-master in
> 5.0.

I think this would be *really* confusing.  I can see people setting up
ad-hoc interfaces on different releases with identical commands, and
wondering why they can't interoperate.  If we change adhoc, I think we
should get rid of it altogether, not change the meaning.

> If there are devices out there that are so totally broken that they
> screw things up when they are allowed to create an IBSS and someone
> else has done it first, we'll deal with the problem then.

I don't think that's the issue.  I've been using IBSS for some time,
and once I knew what I was doing, I had no problems.

Greg
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